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The leading Labour rebel, Frank Field, has teamed up with senior Tories to demand a cap on the number of immigrants settling in Britain.
In a move that will alarm Downing Street, Field will tomorrow become the first prominent Labour figure to tackle Gordon Brown openly over the explosive issue of immigration.
A former welfare minister under Tony Blair, Field will join Nicholas Soames, the Tory MP, to call for a huge reduction in the numbers of non-European Union workers who settle permanently in Britain. Soames, a former minister under John Major, is a hate figure among many Labour MPs.
Together with the pressure group Migrationwatch, Field and his allies will launch the first cross-party parliamentary immigration group. The move has tacit support from at least one government minister.
Field aims to push Brown to end Britain’s open door immigration policy, which he says is costing British jobs and is deeply unpopular with voters.
The Labour maverick led the backbench rebellion over Brown’s controversial abolition of the 10p tax rate. His latest intervention will be seen by Downing Street as likely to cause division within Labour ranks by challenging Brown on a key area of Labour policy. Until now the idea of imposing any kind of immigration quota has been taboo in Labour circles.
Field believes that unchecked immigration is placing an intolerable burden on schools, transport, the health service and the environment. He will cite figures showing that the rise in immigration means that Britain will need to build seven new cities the size of Birmingham by 2031.
A forecast by the European commission predicts that Britain’s population will rise from 60.9m today to 77m within 50 years, making it Europe’s most populous country.
In 2006, the latest year for which figures are available, an estimated 591,000 people arrived in the UK. About 400,000 left the country, leaving net immigration at 191,000.
Field will call on Brown to balance the number of those coming to settle in Britain with those emigrating.
He will propose that all but a tiny minority of the skilled foreigners from outside the EU coming to work here on new four-year work permits should leave as soon as their permits expire. Under the present system, most stay on and are allowed to settle permanently.
“The group believe that this should be the central aim of immigration policy. Only a small number would be allowed to settle and that number would be capped,” said a source close to Field.
Yesterday one government minister said he privately supported the move. “We absolutely have to have a cap, otherwise how can you control it? Any sensible person will say that predictions that the population will grow to nearly 80m is unsustainable,” he said.
“If you don’t have a cap on those who stay after their work permits expire, you can’t control the long-term trend.”
Field has spoken about the need to control immigration from eastern Europe. But this is the first time that any Labour figure has called for a quota on migrants coming to settle.
Ministers have consistently dismissed Tory calls for a quota, saying it would make little difference as most migrants come from the EU and have a legal right to stay. But that view is challenged by Migrationwatch, which has found that immigration from the EU will soon balance out. The pressure of immigration in future will come from non-EU countries, including those in Africa and Asia.
Unofficial estimates suggest that as many as 100,000 foreigners a year who come to Britain under work permit schemes decide to flout immigration rules and stay on when their permits expire.
The Home Office has recently introduced an Australian points-based system designed to restrict the number of non-EU migrants entering under the work permit scheme to those who have proper qualifications and experience. But the Tories — and Field — believe that the scheme is still an open door because it does not set an annual limit on numbers.
David Cameron, the Conservative party leader, said last year that he wanted to reduce “substantially” the number of non-EU immigrants. He has promised to announce a specific limit in the party’s next election manifesto.
Field will emphasise that he does not want a limit on the numbers of new migrants per se. Instead he plans to target the more important issue of placing a cap on those who settle here permanently.
Field’s friends say his move is designed to reflect genuine concern among working-class people in his Birkenhead constituency. Last December the MP revealed new figures which showed that most new jobs were going to migrants. The figures made a mockery of Brown’s declaration that he wanted “British jobs for British workers”.
The Statistics Commission said that 1.4m workers born abroad had taken jobs in Britain since 1997 — up to 81% of the 1.7m new jobs.
The new group believes it has backing from business leaders such as the Institute of Directors and the CBI. Field expects to receive substantial public support. Previous opinion polls show about half of existing migrants felt there should be curbs on future immigrants coming to Britain.
A Home Office spokesperson last night said: "Migration is good for employment and good for the economy - new migrants contributed £6 billion to the UK economy in 2006 alone.
"The tough Australian-style points system means only those Britain needs and no more can come here and it's flexible - allowing us to raise or lower the bar according to the needs of business and the country as a whole. When setting the pass mark, we will listen to the advice of the Migration Advisory Committee, an independent panel of economists.
"All migrants must speak English and obey the law if they want to gain citizenship.”
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Train more British peopleand pay them a decent wage
Open up the training centres again which was shut down by the las Tory party.
And, I am NOT a racist,most of my friends are not british by birth
Graham, Swansea, UK
If we, by positive policy or by default, allow a large number of migrants to come here we have a responsibility to them & their dependants to provide good extra infrastructure, hospitals, social housing, schools etc. and we must pay the taxes to fund it. Will those opposing FF do face up to this?
David Kirkham, Glenuig, UK
When you kick me out next year, can I have back the income tax, stamp duty and VAT that I figure adds up to about £300K, which considering that I have no access to public funds is not yours? Then you can sack the 3 British people who work for my company whose jobs were created in part by my effort.
James , Chesham, United Kingdom
What a surprise, a study designed by an anti-immigration to prove their cause.. does.
Real studies have shown most labour movement is within, not from outside the EU and that the points system will help considerably outside it. An aging population needs skilled workers, not to turn them away.
Leon Wolfeson, Oxford, UK
This is a policy which should have been adopted years ago. Frank Field is only coming out with this now because he knows the Tories are onto a winner with their promise of a cap on non-EU immigration when they come to power.
Sue M, Watford, England
By providing needed labour more quickly than the local economy can provide, migrant workers allow our economy to grow faster in good times without triggering inflationary wage rises. In bad times, migrant labour move home / to the next boom economy, removing the surplus labour. They are good for us.
Andrew, London, UK
I left already and am forever glad I did so. I still visit the UK which is nice as it give me a chance to visit the 3rd world.
Jeremy, Vancouver, Canada
Go Frank!
This is desparate. Everyone is behind you.
JohnW, Oldham,
Mr Field is the only Blairite (ex Cabinet Minister) with a brain.
Re the Home Office comment: since they haven't much of a clue how many immigrants are here: where they live: what they actually do: nor how many illegals live here either, how can they support their stupid comment?
Get 'em out!
Sardon, Fruges, France
My BF is Polish, & haven't claimed a benefit in the 4yrs he has been here. He's head foreman of a workshop managing 17 staff (14 nationalities). I'm a Kiwi, & have been here 3yrs on a work permit. I play 13k in tax & NI a year which I don't benefit from The UK needs immigrants like us not lazy sods
L G, London, UK
I like honest tax-paying working people, and I dislike work-shy lazy benefit-dependent scrounging leeches. Their skin colour is irrelevant for me.
Laura Fox, Chichester, UK
Stop all Africans & Asians from coming in . Anything else is going to viewed as slavery or racist. EU members can come in any time & be accepted & claim benefits yet a black/Asian work permit migrant who have worked in this country for yrs can not get anything. Are rules based on colour of skin
joe, Liverpool,
The minister has my absolute support, and that of eveyone I know (without exception). However, it is far too little far too late. At least we can make a start though.
Mike, Crowborough, UK
But it's the European immirgrants - the East Europeans that are the problem - 4 million arriving here in 2 years - no wonder people are resentful - and they have their UK State paid benefits paid to their families in Poland etc!! How stupid is that??
CA, Manchester, UK
First it was the Celts, then the Vikings, then the Angles, then the Saxons, then the Normans, then the Scots, then the Irish, then the German Jews, then the Italians, then the Jamaicians, then the Pakastanis, then Polish then the...isn't this the sum of the British nation?
John Bull, Canning, England
Many of our friends have left or are or are planning to leave. I am a graduate enineer and we are leaving for France within 2 years once my partners youngest child has completed education. I have advised my older children to seek a better qualiy of life elsewhere. The Uk is losing its Middlde Class!
Steve Marchant, Newton Abbot, UK
Alex M Yes well said. We also need to ask people to prove entitlement to services which happens everywhere else. And perhaps watch what happens with the Spanish idea. There are rough sleepers here stuck with no way out.
The world is not getting nicer and our first duty is to those already here
Calvin, Tooting, UK
All the Home Office can talk about is money, money money.
It's not about money it's about the destruction of countryside with extra building we'll need, our quality of life in overcrowded cities and the dilution of our culture.
This government has betrayed us.
Paul, East Sheen, UK
Can anyone prove that British people don't want to do these jobs the immigrants are doing? Or is it just way to bulldoze through any arguments. I hear this argument all the time, yet have never seen any evidence put forward by the people who use it.
William, manchester,
If you ask me, this sounds like nothing more than a mix of Islamophobia and xenophobia. The UK has no right to keep immigrants from poor nations out. You have a moral obligation to accept these people. 77 million people by 2050 is not a big deal! America's pop. will be 450 million by 2050.
Alex, seattle, Washington
get the lazy work shy brits of the social and working then the immigrants wont come as there will ne no work for them
mike, london, uk
If this government carries on refusing to obey the will of the democratic majority on immigration, then it can and will be overthrown by the democratic majority forces in Britain.
Democracy, not diktat and dictatorship!
Terry, London, UK
Too bloody late, this incompetent government has already let in far too many immigrants ,many of whom have dubious or criminal backgrounds. Labour have destroyed this Country ,I have a feeling deliberately or at least so incompetent as to appear deliberate.
John, woking, surrey
We should have had a policy of not increasing our population a long time ago and the reason is simple: England (not so much Scotland or Wales) is already grossly overpopulated as is. Unless we act soon we can kiss goodbye to what is left little is left of the English countryside.
Roger, Oxford,
The liberal system of tearing societies apart to send exploitable workers around the world -- in a modern slave trade where half dying on a ship means nothing as long as half arrive -- is certainly not compatible with what might be called "endogenous development". This should be stated openly.
Jane, Boston,
I sometimes wonder if issues such as this (and others such as valuable education budgets used to pay for Polish interpreters and criminals having more rights than their victims for example), are actually a New Labour Socialist ploy to provoke the Middle classes into anarchy. Brown, please JUST GO!
Chrstopher, Taunton, United Kingdom
Immigration, unlimited child benefits for every child, handing over our country to the EU and the expansion of the state into every part of our lives is the Labour legacy. It will be very difficult to reverse, if at all.
R Mason, London, UK
You can bet that the 400 thousand that left were the sort of people this country can ill afford to lose.
I shall be joining them when possible.
Britain is morphing into a third worlders benefits haven
You are all absolutely weclome to whats left of the place.
antony Graham, southport, England
Ah, there will be one Labour MP after the next election them!! At least one has realised why Labours standing has collapsed
Dave, Chorley,
why don't EU migrants in the UK place a burden on anything? Can anybody explain to me thanks..
jim, Leeds, UK
The government wants to do nothing to control over the illegal immigrants, who come to this country and get full benefits at our expenses. On the other side, the government wants to control legal immigrants to UK and pay their tax like every one else and contribute to British economy. It makes sense
RG, London, UK
Why is Labour so keen on immigrants? Look at all the lawyer MPs (Keith V?) making millions out of legal aid assisting immigrants. What does each immigrant cost the country in housing and benefits + legal aid? £20K p.a. as a starter, then more to deport them. Say goodbye to the green & pleasant land.
Rob Bryant, Bromley, England
I read recently that Spain is to pay £14,200 to unemployed migrants who return home, and who promise not to come back to Spain for 3 years.
This is a major concern with many countries.
Des, Edinburgh,
Every time I read an article like this, I feel how sad and uninformed some MPs are. They only seem to use a certain part of published studies without looking at the underlying assumtions. Maybe he is the mirror image of his constituency?
Jee, Harrow, England
As some of these comments show, people who would cap immigration always get labelled racists, their views vetoed. A normal debate becomes impossible. As the article makes clear, there are good reasons to cap it, especially in terms of public service provision, managed integration and sustainability.
Alex M, London,
Why ordinary people have seen this before the MPs
derek, essex, uk
Dave, Liverpool, England
Most of the recent immigrants are in Liverpool Dave. As usual the dumping ground of Britain. You can't move more than a foot in Liverpool for foreigners and they're not all visitors, at least not those out shopping in the suburbs with their dozens of children.
judy, Liverpool, England
Thank goodness someone who has a bit of clout has finally said something!
So many ordianary people have waited years for this
Bec, Bristol,
Only the BNP would have the mettle to implement a stop on ALL immigration. Zero net immigration will not do - 300,000 educated Brits leaving to be replaced by 300,000 Africans is not to our advantage.
Isaac Brown, Nottingham, uk
Fantastic news! Pity it is 10 years too late, but better late than never as they say. The situation is worse than that painted, as England (without the vast unpopulated areas of Scotland) is already the most densely populated country in Europe.
Richard Marriott, Kidderminster, England
Accept it or not ,they will be immigrants in this country as it has been since slave time. Just a little you can pay as respect to Africans is to leave them alone;Westerns are the causer of Africans misery. just look the job they do in this country! no British can do it (Elder,houses and Dis....)
Evancy , High Wycombe,
I think they have a strong case if it is worded right. The problem is not migration per se but that permament residency is afforded to those who have only been in the country 4 years. \this is the real issue that needs tackling. Doctors for instance are allowed permament resisdency after 4 yrs.
oslem, london,
So Labour is jumping on the immigration card, it smacks of desperation to me. Nu labour opened the gates and for years branded anyone who criticised them as zenophobic or racist.
How the worm has turned.
roger Kingston, york,
"Migration is good for employment and good for the economy - new migrants contributed £6 billion to the UK economy in 2006 alone." Poppycock and balderdash. Labour propaganda. Similar to the search for weapons of mass destruction?
Mike L., Noorthampton,
Stop giving non EU migrants access to healthcare, housing and benefits, and the problem goes away. Simple, thats why it will never happen.
steve, swansea, UK
A "cap on the number of immigrants"? ...If only! There must be an election in the offing. Also, where has Frank Field been for the LAST fifty years?
Brian Clacey, Croydon, UK
These east european migrants are not stealing British jobs. They have made the labour market a lot more competitive and are doing jobs that British will not do for whatever reason. These children of non-eu migrants that have settled here are also achieving than their white working class companions.
Jaskooner Singh, Glasgow, UK
... And also: 'Revealed: Immigrants swell populations of British towns by 10pc.' By James Slack 3 May 2007, Daily Mail. Illustrated by a colourful map of all the counties in the UK and how they have been affected by immigration.
It features a Romanian family of 101 immigrants living in Slough.
Annie H, Bath, UK
They forget to say that the unskilled immigrants are the ones who do the dirty work that many British citizens refuse to do, like fruit/veggie picking, cleaning jobs, etc. I am a skilled immigrant who pay lots of tax, that ironically helps to pay for the benefit of some ,lazy English citizen.
Mateus, London, UK
Please can we boot out Brown and put Frank Field in for the remainder of the Labour term - he seems to be the only Labour politician in tune with the concerns of British people.
We need to stop the flow of people from Asia and Africa and ensure that people who are here illegally are deported.
John, London, UK
Of the 400,000 that left in 2006, how many were immigrants and how many were British born who just wanted to get out.
Frank Field is right, but its way too late.
The country is flooded, " British citizens" holding bits of paper this government has happily thrust in their hands..
Its time to go.
Steve, Birkenhead, Merseyside
The uk has become a ghetto of no-go areas because of migration how is this good for the country. Stop more immigration and either integrate or remove those who do not want intergration. There is on language which is common to all English. If you cannot contribute ship them out.
steve tea, manchester, cheshire
I think it was an excellent idea to let in Russian and Eastern European criminal gangs. That way we can ensure regular people trafficking and other honourable past-times. Jack Straw says we have no way of knowing how many illegals have entered the country giving a real sense of multi culturalism.
P. Kelly, Hull, UK
Yes, too late.
I work on contract in many IT companies. I have noticed a massive change: highly qualified English IT staff leaving the country in droves to be replaced by a greater number of foreign cleaners, many of whom have difficulty replying to a cheery 'Hello'.
Dave
Dave, Liverpool, England
Sweden has always had a bit of a reputation for being soft touch on immigration. However it has had caps on work permit migrant settlement for years. Perhaps it is time to take a closer look at how other EU countries are dealing with similar issues.
Vince, Marathon, United States
Which sane and skilled person will want to come to this country if settlement in not allowed. I am an immigrant and work in the science industry and make a good salary, but I don't think I want to live among xenophobics anymore. You will lose many more people like me to more welcoming countries.
SD, London,
Immigration is necessary for countries that have large expanses of unpopulated land, industries which are under supplied with staff and have a strong growing economy.
Time to change.
P Flannery, Glasgow,
My wife is a foreign national who speaks three languages (English/Japanese/Mandarin) and has an MA ,yet she is having problems in obtaining a suitable job in translation/interpretation.
We had to pay £600 (valid for two years) for her visa ,it runs out next year will she be booted out too?
michael, newcastle, uk
Some common sense at long last. Why does it take politician's so long to see what most people can see? O yes they are completely out of touch with reality
Martin, Reading, Berkshire
If Brittan needs workers, look at the Saudi's, if the individual wants work the companiy applies for a visa, if the worker wishes to open a bank account send their children to school import good the company has to provide a letter that is enorsed by the gov, company is responsible until they leave.
Steve, Al-Khobar, Saudi Arabia
Field has long been one of the few sane voices in the Labour Party. He is a throwback to the days when Labour stood for decency and honesty, not control freakery and plunder.
Billy Barnett, HK,
The Government allows unlimited immigration of cheap labour, and then wonders why poor people stay poor.
Wilberforce, London,
We need to cap the numbers - and do so in a manner that ensures that there can be no appeal to unelected non-UK bodies (eg. various folk in the EU) to overturn UK decisions. We also need to tighten the restrictions on who, among foreigners already here, may stay here.
Nick, Rotherham, UK
If Brown still refuses to listen, his homeland Scotland should take everyone of them. No Scottish agreement, no more Barnett Formula payments.
Russia needs immigrants, we don't, so offer them one way tickets to Moscow at ports and airports as they arrive, or send them home again,
and they pay.
Ken.H, Harrow, UK
A lot of immigrations are from EU country lately.
The other issue is the UK economy is highly dependent on international talent, trade and foreign investment, without that I am afraid the UK economy cant survive in this competitive world. How about control quality of immigrants rather than numbers
PT, Glasgow, UK
You don't need to have caps! It's probably racist & definitely immoral to target certain geographic areas.
Make access to all welfare impossible for the first 5 years & people will self-select. Those who can support themselves will stay, the vast majority will never even come in the first place.
Bertie, London,
It would appear Frank is getting nervous about holding on to his job as per all Labour MP's. I don't think any Labour MP's will survive the election whenever it comes and whoever is leading.
Russell, Aberdeen, Scotland
Dear me. If Field has it his way, all flights to New York, Sydney, Johannesburg and Auckland will be booked up by returnees for the next couple of years. (And who is going to run our mortgage providers, if they all go home?)
Alice W, Peckham,
Most of those who migrated from there to here did so because they felt like foreigners and second class citizens in their own land. The leaders are blind fools. I agree with Peter from Aldershot...... the horse has bolted. You have betrayed your own people.
Sean, Brisbane, Australia
This M.P. appears to be responding to the concerns of those who elected him. My goodness ///
wpo, warsaw, ny
Gate - Horse - Bolted
All these come to mind, YOUR TOO LATE !!!
Peter, Aldershot, UK